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March rabbit
Ganse
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Posted - 2011.11.22 08:23:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Guttripper wrote:I've always been curious about something - has anyone ever been known to go to the Fanfest, found a particular person that ganked or scammed that person, and then broke that person's nose right there and then in real life revenge? So you're saying that someone who is deathly terrified of losing some imaginary spacepixel items in a videogame, would have the fortitude to put his real life well-being at risk in a violent act against the person who caused him the loss of said imaginary spacepixels? Does that not in the least bit seem absurd to you?
not really. have you heard about "sexual harrasment"? In many cases it doesn't make any physical harm. However it exist. And you can catch or get caught because of it.
The same is with "imaginary subpixels". You only need good lawer to make real revenge.....  |
March rabbit
Ganse
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Posted - 2011.11.22 08:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Tippia wrote:Seriously, though. Never ever cargo-expand an Orca. It's bad in every way imaginable. Why not?  Because there is no need for it GÇö you already have 36k+ m-¦ cargo hold, 50k m-¦ ore hold, 40k m-¦ corp hangar, and a 400k m-¦ ship hangar. That's plenty. ... A tanked Orca can have almost 300k EHP and carry nearly 530k m-¦ of stuff. A cargo-expanded Orca will easily drop down to 80k EHP and will carry maybe 570k m-¦ of stuff. That minuscule increase in carrying capacity is not worth the massive reduction in EHP.
let's say: to refuel 6 planets of PI P1->P3 production i fill whole cargo-expanded orca. Ore bay and ship bay don't matter.....
and in safe-sec (i mean 0.0 droneland) you don't need EHP in orca. You need to try very hard to loose it there
"never say never" |
March rabbit
Ganse
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.11.22 09:43:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Takseen wrote:That's questionable. Some quick EFT testing shows you can get about 22k EHP on a hulk with a damage control, invulnerability field x2 and shield rigs. Compared to 11k EHP with just an invulnerability field and more +mining yield mods.
So the tanked hulk will survive one volley from the Tornado fit in the OP, but will still die if
-it gets to fire two volleys
-if there's two Tornados
Personally I think Hulks should have a stronger maximum tank, at the cost of more mining yield. Though I suppose you could argue just flying a cheap Covetor is the best gank defence of all. While I don't disagree that barges should have higher tank ceilings (at the expense of mining capacity, of course) ...
you (and other wannabees) are ignoring one thing: mining barge is SPECIALIZED ship. Just in case you don't know what it means: take a look to SB, new T3 BCs, new supercarriers.
In short words: by increasing tank and decreasing cargohold you are killing role of mining barge at all. it mines ore, and ore takes space. Using jettison cans is bad idea because of can flippers. Using Orcas need fleet ops. It's ok but suicide gankers don't need fleet ops. They can work solo while miners don't. And this is not a good balance.
Fitting tank to hulk It's like fitting tank to SBs. Or fitting tank to new T3 BCs. Yes, you can do it but you will not wait good return from such fitting.
And here we have problem: ship specialized to do long-term static tasks has no protection at all from alpha blow. Fitting tank to this ship moves it outside its purposed role. |
March rabbit
Ganse
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.11.22 10:10:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I was going to address that issue in my reply, but seeing as how you lost all of your credibility in the first few words of your first sentence, I'm not going to bother. Why waste my time anyway? Talking to someone as ignorant as you means words will go into one ear, and out the other.
Edit: directed at post #168
it's not that credibility in eyes of suicide gankers and other wannabees is important for me.... Only thing i want is to add some reasonable content to threads "we don't mine so we don't care about anything except our KBs and tears of other people".
And if "first words of your first sentence" is about wannabees....  then sorry. suicide gankers and other "pvp" high-sec stuff isn't what i can name "pvp-ers" |
March rabbit
Ganse
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Posted - 2011.11.22 13:45:00 -
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Botleten wrote:New gank ship + Anom buff = Rivers of hisec tears
well. you can enjoy the fact that dronelands are full of tears too because of "anom buff"
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